| By Annie on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 07:46 pm: |
I just cannot believe that anyone can be so wicked in their treatment of dogs. I was so shocked reading that article. Well done to Ooze for exposing this man's wickedness.
| By Pat on Friday, October 19, 2001 - 09:21 pm: |
How could people stand by watch this man abuse their dog and then be expected to pay him in the bargain. Well done Ooze for exposing this mans training methods and exploitation of a companion animal. He really does need to be prosecuted for the cruel training methods used.
| By Dot on Sunday, October 21, 2001 - 02:25 pm: |
Where are the RSPCA in all of this? If I read the article correctly there have been complaints about him, why haven't they done anything? Surely what King is doing is cruel and against the law? How can the RSPCA know about this man and not do anything?
| By Jill on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 04:33 pm: |
Hi All
Read article on Mr King what a bastard, obviously gets his kicks out of "being in control" Disgusted to read he also extends his compassion to his wives, girlfriends and his kids.
Did note that not once in the article has he done anything on a man.... streak of yellow?
Jill
| By Joan Dalton on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 03:00 pm: |
Stephen King was run out of Oregon, U.S.A. due to his unhumane methods of training. He even claimed (in his brochure and a local newspaper) that he started Project POOCH, a program that I started in 1993! We are known throughout Europe and the United States for a successful program pairing incarcerated juveniles with shelter dogs and then rehoming them. I guess King felt he didn't have any credibility of his own so unfairly decided to take from others. He has serious animal abuse problems and should not be allowed around animals. His personality and actions are cause for alarm to everyone who lives a life of compassion for animals.
Thank you for exposing him. This is a reminder to all: Check out the credentials of any trainer.
| By Nigel on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 04:38 pm: |
Wot a WANKER!!!!
Appalled at Kings behaviour cruel bastard....it makes you embarrassed to be a bloke...innocent women, children and animals.
If I ever bump into him he will be sorry he is living, a couple of broken arms will sort his dog training out!!!!
A pissed off Nigel
| By Bondage Boy on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 09:57 pm: |
Read the story on King I wonder if he fancies spending a night with me i could show him one or two tricks with pain....i wonder if he can take it aswell as dish it out?
Ohhh and can you imagine what fun we could have with him if the georgeous Witch Bitch acted as mistress!!!
byeeee all
Bondage Boy
| By Stan the Man on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 10:26 pm: |
Who does this bloke thimk he is?
Sounds like he takes his surname too seriously..King of what,prats?
What can i say execpt i am happy to meet him down a dark alley...if he's not too chicken!
| By Bobbie on Monday, October 22, 2001 - 11:31 pm: |
Think I am hearing too much male testosterone talking! Don't resort to violence - that is his method of operation and isn't that exactly what we are all up in arms about? If you want to do King harm - do it financially. Make copies of the Ooze Magazine and Willamette Week articles and distribute them far and wide. Post them on the Internet-drop copies off at vet clinics-pet stores-cafe-busses-pubs-libraries-college campuses-radio/tv stations-bookstores and any other place of business that will accept them. His clientele will soon cease to exist. Problem solved! He was able to operate in the United States for so long because no one stood up to him and then saw it through. He has NEVER been convicted for his crimes against animals. Several years ago he brought bogus "stalking" charges against me. He lied in court and had his witnesses lie. The charges were dropped due to
lack of evidence. King is pathetic - a liar and a coward. But don't take him lightly - as the articles point out - he is also dangerous. He is not going to go away quietly! In closing - I woud like to remind everyone to ALWAYS report animal abuse-cruely and neglect to the proper authorities.
| By Summer on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 08:16 pm: |
can someone tell me how to get in touch or find this stephen king?does he have a phone number or a adress or a e mail where he can be located?
| By Sceptic on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 09:12 pm: |
It worrying to see that the lynch mob mentality responsible for racism and segregation is still alive and well. Even more worrying still that it should be present in the readers of a so-called 'socially responsible' magazine. Have more sense people please. No man who openly abused dogs would have gone without prosecution. Open your eyes to the motives behind such an article, particularly when someone claiming to be from King's past is on the discussion board. Ask yourselves whether this is more about personal revenge, than exposure of cruelty. It's a journalist's job to write an interesting story not a truthful story, from the Independent to Ooze. Don't allow yourself to be misguided, make your own enquiries, and then come to your own INFORMED conclusions.
| By Jay on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 09:25 pm: |
How strange? Did anyone else notice that the only person on this board who has provided an email address is "Bobbie", the person from King's past? I think Sceptic might have a point. Be careful you dont get dragged into the personal crusade of a jilted nut-nut guys!!
| By Bobbie on Tuesday, October 23, 2001 - 11:26 pm: |
"Jilted nut-nut??" Surely you jest!The only
"past" King and I share was my animal activism going up against his animal abuse! For you to think otherwise is a bit of a giggle and really quite disgusting. The bogus stalking charges arose because I was investigating King - not because of some sick relationship! As far as my "personal crusade" yeah I have one and I am not ashamed to admit it - I am an animal rights activists! I detest anyone who abuses or exploits animals for their own personal gain and profit! Obviously - those who question my motives have never met the infamous Stephen Barry King. If you have any question about this "man" and his character I would suggest you check out www.arkonline.com and read the story "See Spot Hang." I have talked to King's human victims and the fear they have of this "man" even years later is quite troubling. I included my E-mail address because I have NOTHING to hide and I have actually had a response - but it may very well be from King himself. Do read "See Spot Hang" and then come back to the discussion board and see if your views have changed.
The reason - and you will have a better understanding of it after you do your homework - that he has never been prosecuted is fear and our very lax laws in the States.Anyone can call themselves a "trainer" - we have no standards or qualification requirements. Most of the people who have challanged King have been women and when they questioned him he intimidated them with his violent nature. Read again what happened to Linda Allen and her neighbors when they complained about his "training " techniques. How many times have you encountered a total stranger who threatened " ....I'll fuck you up,I'll kill you."? This is not a normal response from a "trainer." Ooze magazine nor I have any reson to exaggerate the facts - please -just keep your minds open and do not close your eyes to abuse. Bobbie (yes that really is my name)
| By Sarah on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 12:21 am: |
I recognise the methods being used in the video stills. They are the very same employed by the very successful Mathew Margolis. He has a regular slot on Animal Planet and uses the same correction & praise method that Mr King appears to be using. Are you now going to accuse Animal Planet of harboring animal abusers?
Time for some facts to be injected to this, frankly less than factual discussion board. Mr King appears to be repositioning the dog in the stills which everyone else claims shows him hanging a dog. The bin in the photos probably hides the fact that the dogs back feet are infact on the ground. This is a common method used by professional trainers. The dog's front feet are usually off the ground for a matter of milliseconds. Hardly hanging. The corrections for the down command are also standard. Both the side-down command and the front-down command appear to be depicted. Professionals never kick dogs. The foot makes contact with the lead. This also appears to be depicted in the stills.
The way the corrections are explained in this article are deliberately emotive. If there is a personal problem with Mr King then keep it personal. The methods he appears to use are standard methods which are both highly effective and fair. Such techniques are employed to keep dogs safe, just as Mr King's assistant was quoted to say. Many an unruly dog has been saved from euthenasia because a trainer has had the skills and emotional strength to employ these techniques after others have given up hope.
Mr King is not alone in his use of these techniques. If he deserves to be charged for animal abuse, then so does Matthew Margolis and many others.
| By Jay on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 12:24 am: |
Oops. I appear to have hit a rather raw nerve "Bobbie". Awfully sorry.
| By Anonymous on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 09:00 am: |
To Summer: This is not personal Mr King needs to be prosecuted by the correct authorities
To Sarah: Does Mr Margolis extend his training methods to abusing women as Mr King is alleged to do? I would be interested to see if Mr Margolis and Animal Planet would endorse the methods used by Mr King?
Finally, How easy is it to break a metal choke chain on a dog? No animal deserves to be treated like that!
| By Editor on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 12:16 pm: |
Dear All
Public viewing of e-mail addresses left on this site have been disabled by us,allowing people to say what they feel, make comments and give opinions without fear of being deluged by e-mails from fellow members.
You can however e-mail us in confidence at (editor@oozemagazine.co.uk,)
Real names please!
| By David Barker on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 12:48 pm: |
Read messages with interest..SARAH AND SCEPTIC OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!
If Sarah is going to give us the facts why does she then go on to say "it appears he was repositioning the dog?" If she is giving the facts she either knows he was or he wasn't!!!
She then tells us that the bin might be hiding the dogs legs which according to her are infact on the ground, then goes on to explain how hanging is done.
I am also fascinated that she is under the impression that this method of training is acceptable and standard....does'nt she know the law?????
Maybe she should go back and read the article and look at the stills again which are only a few from a whole video which the mag does tell you!
At the risk of being called warped i would like to ask sarah if she is by any chance the girl in the stills who is also guilty of abuse????
If not maybe you should ask King for a job, with your misinformed attitude you would make a good team!!!
Sceptic you could probably join them too you obviously don't know your facts either...you can't print anything in this country unless you can prove it beyond doubt in a court of law!!!!
King probably hasn't been done before due to lax laws in USA and lack of independent concrete evidence...up til now hes probably just been lucky!!!
I congratulate the editors of ooze for doing such a good job, trainers like King need to be investigated and exposed properly to stop them committing cruelty and abuse in the name of dog training..WELL DONE!
| By Marion on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 12:57 pm: |
Hello Marion here,lunchtime at work thought i ought to leave a message re Stephen King.
Was absolutly horrified at this mans escapades especially after reading See Spot Hang aswell.
This guys on a major power trip and obviously has a problem with women....ironic to have been exposed in this country by the editors of ooze who are both women...Poetic Justice?
| By John Stamford on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 03:39 pm: |
What can I say?
I wonder if King and his assistant Lottie would like to be trained in the same manner and would they make the right choices with a choke chain strangling them?
Interested in what Marion said about the editors didn't realise they were women and obviously tough ones at that....wonder is Stephen King tough enough to cope with that or does he like his ladies more vunerable?
Actually when you think of it ..its really very funny caught out by the girlies!!!
| By Jessica on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 04:01 pm: |
Sorry can,t resist!!I have got to ask this question.....the saying goes that men with flash cars are insecure and have small penises does the same apply to dog trainers on power-trips?
PS.mag is great as always.
| By Simon Y on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 04:20 pm: |
God what a bastard!!!
Read article at work took us ages as we all passed it around we also read See Spot Hang ..shocking. This man and his sidekick Lottie or whatever you call her are callous and cruel even more so because it is easy to hurt the defenceless.
I wish them luck because I'm sure when some of the animal rights people get hold of this info they may find themselves being retrained.
Oh and well done girls..you frighten me and I'm just a reader, Witch Bitch hasn,t got a patch on you!!
| By Sceptic on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 05:36 pm: |
I certainly didn't expect my comments to be welcomed on this discussion board. Your opinions appear to be set in stone, inspite of having only heard one side of the story. So maybe i should just make a final suggestion before leaving you to organise the tar & feathering of Mr King.
Why not contact him yourselves? I know i will. I want to educate myself. Go to one of his training sessions and see with your own eyes how he trains dogs. If he is prepared to train dogs in parks then can he really have that much to hide? Indeed, if he is what this articles claims he is, it would be quite apparent, right? If the authors of this article have been investigating Mr King for 5 months then they must know how to contact him.
Why not form your opinion once you are thoroughly informed? Have you ever been wrong before, but absolutely convinced you were right? Just consider for a moment that you may not have been presented with all the facts. This is, after all, just a magazine, not a court of law.
| By Pitbull on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 08:09 pm: |
Dear all I read with interest the article relating to a certain Mr King.What a cruel and sadistic bastard this man really is. Another interesting fact I realised is that this poor excuse of a man plies his cruel trade in my local area,Bourne Road, Bexley, Kent(under the train arches next door to a company called Pharmax).He's even got the front to advertise his cruel trade with a yellow and black sign at the entrance of the yard in Bourne Road opposite Dennis of Bexley Butchers. You never know maybe someone will be able to go and give him the helicopter ride he so rightly deserves.
| By Suzy on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 08:29 pm: |
Suzy here,
Read all the messages what a mix not all good either but interesting. I personally found the King article distressing, I find it hard to believe we still have morons using these methods to train peoples dogs, I was also disturbed to learn some of his past history and how he deals with his relationships. Mr King has an overall problem and sounds like he could be quite dangerous,the two ballsy editors who did the story need to be careful, although I agree with John, his type tend to go for the easy targets.
The assistant dog trainer Lottie in the magazine shocked me she looks as though "butter wouldn't melt..."
Sceptic is interesting he wants to contact King to educate himself yet he defends him...does he know Stephen King?
He is also pretty covinced that only one side of the story has been presented, it seems pretty clear to me from the article and I know from other copies of the mag that ooze has concrete proof he did it..they don't mess about thats why people like me read it and you cannot argue with video footage.... It maybe a good idea for Sceptic to re-read the article as King was contacted for his opinion but chose to be offensive instead.
He should also be aware that it isn't only a magazine and that PRINT IS POWERFUL only a true idiot messes with the press.
Well I have said my bit, good on you ooze already waiting for the sequal!!!
| By adrizz on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 10:13 pm: |
AS someone who has seen the video I know for a fact that:
1. the dog showed no signs of aggression towards Mr King or his assistant.
2. The dog did emit several painful yelps as he was being yanked about.
3. The dog was taken off his paws and hung in the air.
4. The choke chain did break when the dog was yanked forcefully.
5. The dog was frightened, confused, and in pain.
6. The foot on the lead was not used in a soft gentle manner.
Yes I can well believe there are sceptics.
I can also believe there are those who may well exagerate and try to paint someone blacker then they are.
However in this case regarding the video - I know what I saw.
Ann DeRizzio
| By Editor on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 11:53 am: |
Dear All
Ooze Magazine totally supports the right to freedom of speech so we will not censor the messages on this board. You are free to discuss and express yourselves in any way you feel appropriate. And while we appreciate that this particular topic has provoked some readers into strong responses and emotions we must make it clear that we cannot and do not support acts of, or incitement to, violence of any kind.
Addie & Frances
| By The Equalizer on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 12:55 pm: |
Dear Ed,
What an amazing story, this guy is obviously a complete nutter. Although you do not condone violence of any kind at all, it is pretty clear from your article that Mr. King DOES!!!
He should get the same treatment that the poor dogs get, well done Pitbull for advertising where this creature can be found. I for one (and many others i know) would love to give him the helicopter ride that he deserves. I'm sure his time is up!!!!!
| By John Doe on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 06:26 pm: |
This is really an amazing story.Does anybody have any information on the dog in the photos who is being so mistreated and how he is doing? Has he suffered any permanent damage physically and mentally?Did the owner of the dog just stand by and watch this happen or are they going to report King for the abuse? Would be interested in following this a bit more.
| By Joshua on Thursday, October 25, 2001 - 07:50 pm: |
Hia Everyone,
Appropriate joke isn't it...John Doe...American for unidentified dead body (well thats what they say in the movies)
Joshua
| By Bobbie on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 12:37 am: |
Things are getting too quiet in here! So - I will be the first to challenge King to come on board and try to defend his abusive and cowardly tactics of "training" a companion animal.
Okay - King - the ball is in your court ..... come out come out wherever you are! We won't bite.....too hard!
| By The Equalizer on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 11:37 am: |
Dear Bobbie, King will not come out as himself as he is far too cowardly to reply in person. After reading all the comments on this discussion board i'm sure that King is truly 'Sceptic' and that Lottie is truly 'Sarah'. These two people have made no comments at all since their whereabouts have been made public. Good, i hope they've gone into hiding and never come out. You may not bite too hard, but i'll bite as bloody hard as i can!!!This pair need locking up as well as hanging up!!!
| By Bobbie on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 12:40 pm: |
Equalizer - Some insects need to live under rocks in order to survive. But I guarantee he will resurface. His M.O. is to go into hiding when things heat up - keeping a low profile and then .... well you know what they say about a bad penny. I received an E-mail from someone who thought like you - they too believed "Sceptic" and "Sarah" were the "Gruesome Twosome" but also included "Jay." Note on their first two posts that each time "Jay" followed "Sceptic" within minutes! There are new developments happening in this saga right now as I write - hopefully they will be posted on this board soon. Stay tuned.....
Bobbie CAPERALF13@AOL.com
| By Joshua on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 03:56 pm: |
Dear Equaliser
I agree they do need locking up, and i think it is important not to forget Lottie is just as guilty. I would be interested to hear what she has to say for herself!
Joshua
| By Topaz on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 04:35 pm: |
The big question here is how do we stop Stephen King from abusing animals? Is it even possible?
I've seen his work. I know what he is capable of.
| By Stunned Mullet on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 05:30 pm: |
Bloody fascinating - I have been glued to this message board for the last 3 days after receiving an email from bitebacknow@aol.com. I can't remember the last time a magazine or newspaper article evoked such emotion. I am a stunned mullet!
I know you are all aware it is proven that there is in fact a link between animal cruelty and violence against humans.
I understand that two other American crazies Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy also began their 'careers' by hurting animals before progressing to killing and torturing women.
To quote the German philosopher Immanuel Kant "He who is cruel to animals becomes also in his dealings with men. WE CAN JUDGE THE HEART OF A MAN BY HIS TREATMENT OF ANIMALS" - and he was around way before King's time!
Joshua - I wouldn't agree that Lottie is just as guilty. Intuition tells me that she is or will also be a victim if his track record with women is anything to go by. I also read the See Spot Hang article at www.arkonline.com and his last assistant apparently ended up being used as a human shield! She is a child - and I'm sure she will live to regret her silly girl response to Ooze's questions "…. abuse is when you overfeed a dog and let it get run over". She's obviously none too bright. King's puppet/muppet?
I'd love to see a posting from his last assistant, Kristin Beck in Oregon.
Kristin what advice would you give to daft Lottie?
However the comments of King, a middle-aged man, really really disturbed me "….. until we start hugging every tree and saving every whale, it's what stops the dogs getting into trouble and being put down. These f***ing people who say I don't want to cause my dog any discomfort are the ones who are inhumane. Thousands of dogs die each year because they have behavioural problems that are f***ing solvable. That's as bad as what's just happened in New York. Chew on that!"
What utter nonsense - I don't follow his reasoning - and I'm sure that those who sadly lost loved-ones in New York on 11 September wouldn't agree with him. I was rendered speechless by his crass insensitivity!
I can't help wondering what sad set of circumstances have created such a monster! Anyone know anything about his childhood? It would be interesting to hear some testimonials from our brothers and sisters across the pond....
I am also convinced that 'Sceptic' and 'Sarah' are King and Lottie - their postings were pathetically transparent. How cowardly and in character that they do not have the guts to address this forum in the first person. Of course they can't find anyone to legitimately endorse what they do. Where are you Sceptic and Sarah?
How anyone can justify breaking a metal choke chain on a poor defenceless dog or lifting it off the ground with such force that it's eyes literally pop out of it's head I just don't know.
I sincerely believe from what information I am armed with that King will one day kill a dog. Do we just stand by until this happens? I certainly hope that the relevant authorities will rid us of this sick scum. I could never advocate violence, especially in this case as it would be too quick!
RSPCA where are you? I always thought that the P in RSPCA stood for Prevention but perhaps it stands for Pro (Royal Society Pro Cruelty to Animals). My donations to the RSPCA are just about to dry up.
Lastly, as I am sure you are all bored rigid with my rantings by now, I would like to thank Ooze for giving such food for thought. I too certainly hope that there will be a sequel. Please keep us informed of what happens next.
Standing ovation ladies.
| By Bobbie on Friday, October 26, 2001 - 07:42 pm: |
Topaz - By the way I love your name - is it authentic or a pseudonym? Anyway - YES - King can and must be stopped! Personally - the best way that I see that happening is through educating guardians of companion animals. If the two articles "Obey Or Be Corrected" and "See Spot Hang" are widely distributed throughout England his business will cease to exist. But this will have to be an effort on everyone's part to make sure this materializes. If every one who is so appalled by this "man" would take it upon themselves to make sure 10 people they know read these articles and those 10 people pass it on to 10 others ... Okay so we are looking at a chain letter type situation here. The articles can also be copied and placed all around England. King CAN BE STOPPED with our determination.. But be prepared -if you go up against him he will relatiate. Chances are he is not going to burn your house down in the middle of the night - that is not his style. He is more apt to go running to the police and make false allegations against you. But if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear. We have brought the issue out into the light this far - we can't just tuck our tails and roll over and play dead. He likes his women submissive lets show him what strong women (and men) are capable of. I am woman hear me roar!!!
So - what do you think people - are you willing to do what needs to be done? Topaz - what are your thoughts on stopping this type of abuse? What do the rest of you think? Come on I can't hear you! CAPERALF13@AOL.com
| By Bobbie on Saturday, October 27, 2001 - 03:00 pm: |
I'm intrigued!!! CAPERALF13@AOL.com
| By Anonymous on Saturday, October 27, 2001 - 06:12 pm: |
Me thinks the King is really a "Queen"
| By Devils Advocate on Saturday, October 27, 2001 - 08:40 pm: |
Just logged on and read this whole string.
A few observations. Sceptic and Sarah are obviously from the same stable. Could they be Lottie Stagg? They obviously are King supporters or brainwashed acolytes. While encouraging the rest of us to learn more about King's methods they patently have more knowledge than they admit to. I have met King and am as worried about his perverse behaviour towards humans as well as to his animal charges. Here is a man who has a chip on both shoulders. Violent,abusive,paranoic,although anyone who uses $100's of grass a week is entitled to be paranoid.
Where will this all end?
| By The Equalizer on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 10:32 am: |
Although there have been suggestions of how to stop this raving lunatic, the RSPCA are clearly not doing their job properly. Does anybody know of an MP that would be able to kick arse over this? I can't believe that the buck stops with the RSPCA, there must be someone at a higher level that can deal with this. If King is not a British citizen(as quoted in your article) and does not pay tax, why on earth is he allowed to practice over here? Get him out of Britain he is obviously a complete wierdo and does not belong here. He is blatantly breaking the law and getting away with it. As for his comments about 'Look whats happened in America, chew on that' he should be publicly flogged. Get rid of the Human Rights Act and bring back hanging, give the bastard a taste of his own medicine.
| By Anonymous on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 11:04 am: |
Unfortunately for the UK King cannot return to U.S.A. he has never paid one cent in child support and will be arrested if he dare try to step foot back in the U.S.A.
| By The Equalizer on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 11:28 am: |
Does this mean that he is a wanted man? Can't the relevant authorities in the States demand that this pratt is extradited and convicted? Britain is too soft, as a country we are easy pickings for all who want to come and abuse the system. Is King an illegal imigrant? Are the police over here not interested in helping our friends across the water? So many questions i know, but something needs to be done about this and fast. I for one, hope that he rots in hell very soon. By the way i am not a tree hugger or an animal rights activist, i personally do not know this wimp - neither would i want too - but what he is doing makes me sick to the core. Let's hope i meet him down a dark alley in Bexley, Kent. King, come and have a go if you think your hard enough.
Woof Woof, does that help.
| By Anonymous on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 01:41 pm: |
Don't think he's an illegal immigrant, he married an English woman within 2-3 months of meeting her (marriage of convenience or what!).
| By The Mathematician on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 02:54 pm: |
wow - this guy seems to have had more wives than Henry the Eighth!
I looked in the Yellow Pages (south london edition) out of curiousity and was astounded to see King is advertising in there - under his own name!! What other organisations are unwittingly advertising the services of this poor excuse for a man?
Word of mouth is be very effective. Tell your vet, petshops, dog classes, dog wardens, your local council and all other dog owners you encounter. Watch the word spread like wildfire.
Nobody likes a bullyboy.
| By Marley&Marley on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 03:46 pm: |
We should all contact official organistions to express our concerns:
RSPCA
Wilberforce Way,
Southwater, Horsham,
West Sussex RH13 7WN.
Tel: 0870 333 5 999 or 0044 707 5335 999 for calls from outside the UK
www.rspca.org.uk
Email: Enqserv@rspca.org.uk
IMMIGRATION & NATIONALITY DIRECTORATE
Lunar House
40, Wellesley Road
Croydon CR9 2BY
Telephone: 0870 606 7766
new.scotland.yard@met.police.uk
| By Bobbie on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 04:37 pm: |
Sorry that Stephen King is desecrating your countryside BUT believe me when I say we DO NOT WANT HIM BACK HERE!!! Please keep him and do with him as you see fit but PLEASE do not send him back to the United States .... we have enough problems.
CAPERALF13@AOL.com
| By Pitbull on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 05:12 pm: |
Hi all, I must say this website gets better and better. Stephen King author of horror and stephen King user and maker of horror, quite ironic really.
Can't any authority get this sputem filled,physchotic pusball removed from our green and pleasant land.It makes me mad that I work bloody hard for a living and pay my taxes and this jerk not only charges extortionate fees but will beat your dog half to death in the process and then sticks two fingers up to the tax man, something must be wrong somewhere.
Mr King why don't you come online and defend your actions??I'll tell you why, because your actions are indefensible.
Please let me remind Mr King that the good old British public may be very laid back, but certain things are just inexcuseable, and when the bulldog spirit is pushed it can bite back very hard indeed. Take some advice Mr King and return to the land from which you came and face up to your responsibilities you lowlife scumbag.
| By Loretta Bullis on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 06:34 am: |
To all UK animal lovers,
It was a dark day when my sweet neighbors selected a trainer to help them with a shelter dog they got to replace their beloved Zeus who died of cancer at 14. This new dog had obviously been abused and did not trust people, but the new owners were very loving and patient with him. When King arrived to "help" them, he persuaded them that his methods "though severe" would actually benefit the dog. The dog hated him immediately...animals can see the dark side of humans, after 30 years of working with abused animals, I know this to be a fact. The dog's hackles were up and he growled at King which I had not seen him do with others. King immediately placed a metal choke collar on the dog (backwards unfortuately). Several of us in the apartment building witnessed the most severe handling of a dog we had ever seen. This poor animal could do nothing but cower and pee on the pavement. King continued to jerk and pull this dog...never getting the results he wanted to show off to the owners. Suddenly, the dog lunged to bite King, he lifted the dog into the air and the choke chain latched into a strangle-hold on the dog's throat, completely cutting off his air. His eye's bulged and he screamed in pain (King seemed unaware that the chain collar had not released). King then helicoptered the dog and slammed his head into the concrete driveway. I thought the dog was dead at this point. I shot out of my door to try and save the dog's life and get my hand under the chain collar to release the strangle hold. I told King I had called the police and was making a "citizen's arrest" as he was in violation of Oregon's animal abuse law. He took his arm and fist and struck me in the face saying he was a hired trainer and I needed to mind my own f..ing business and if I didn't he would kill me. The dogs owners immediately took their animal inside and then to the vet. They tried to break their 6 week, $750 contract with King and he began threatening them. They were terrified of him and since that time, I have met countless others who had the same terrible experience. I have personally taken in 3 small dogs who King had worked with that were such emotional basket cases, the owners did not know what to do with them and considered having them euthanized. It took me several months with each to rebuild their trust in mankind. I could not return them to their owners as that trust had been destroyed because they had allowed the abuse.
ONLY POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT WORKS. All reputable trainers use this method. Caution: King moves into an area and immediately aligns himself with policing authorities...He often falsely wears their jackets with police insignia. He often tells potential clients that he works as a police dog trainer. In my case the police report completely disappeared from their files so I could not prosecute this monster. When my husband got home and saw the marks on my face that day he wanted to kill this man. Someday King is going to meet his match...I pray he does. He is liar who's credentials are false. Do not put yourself or animal in his pathway. I have since found out he suffers from mental illness and really is dangerous...especially to dogs and women.
| By Happy on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 06:18 pm: |
Hi Pitbull, Thanks for the address, don't worry we know he will be shaking in his boots, and if the poor little chap thinks he can rush to the police crying someone has broken my legs, no chance, it's great knowing where the local building sites are, if you know what I mean, shouldn't take long to set!!!
| By The Equalizer on Monday, October 29, 2001 - 07:41 pm: |
Dear All,
King and Lottie have not gone under ground, they have no shame. Today they were spotted by someone who read this article. Lottie was infact buying a pint of milk from the local shop in Bexley, Kent at lunchtime. She then joined King and they headed off towards Sidcup in a car. They could have been going anywhere, i just hope that it wasn't for a dog abusing session. He has every right to be paranoid (as suggested by Devils Advocate) lets face it. Any person that has done so much harm to Animals and People, and is so obviously deranged, will be looking over there shoulders for a very long time yet.
| By The Stooge on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 08:43 am: |
reliable inside information. King had some cheap cctv/security installed when he moved in at Bexley. this was before the Ooze article was published.
| By anonymous on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 10:19 am: |
Hmmmm Stooge.
No CCTV installed at those arches.....
| By The Equalizer on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 12:56 pm: |
Dear All, Some interesting information, the RSPCA would like to hear from anyone that has witnessed Kings abuse to dogs. If your dog has suffered at the hands of this monster then please contact the local office. Their telephone number is 01622 753172, please feel free to give them a call, the quicker this madman is caught and prosecuted the better. Get him out of our parks and off the streets. If you spot him 'training' in your area call them immediately, they will be very interested to hear from you!
| By The Equalizer on Tuesday, October 30, 2001 - 01:09 pm: |
Dear Stooge, i too can verify that CCTV cameras are installed where King is in Bexley. Anonymous, you are either looking at the wrong arches or you are King trying to throw a spanner in the works. Well , it's not working, and neither will you be shortly with any luck. Go Home.
| By Anonymous on Wednesday, December 26, 2001 - 12:08 pm: |
my dog has been recently trained by stephen king and lottie.they were both very nice people.my dog was trained to a very high standard in only a few weeks, his methods were full of praise and rewards,he truly loves animals.theses stories are being made up by people who do not even know him or the facts.we are more than pleased by the results.
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